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We are concerned about a view in undergraduate computer science education, especially in the early courses, that it's okay to be math-phobic and still prepare oneself to become a computer scientist. Our view is the contrary: that any serious study of computer science requires students to achieve mathematical maturity (especially in discrete mathematics) early in their undergraduate studies, thus becoming well-prepared to integrate mathematical ideas, notations, and methodologies throughoutdoi:10.1145/343048.343143 dblp:conf/iticse/KelemenTHAB00 fatcat:ke5feg4drvf23ekhqjmfdvk67a