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The knowledge of the martensite start (Ms) temperature of steels is sometimes important during parts and structures fabrication, and it can not be always properly estimated using conventional empirical methods. The additions in newly developed steels of alloying elements not considered in the empirical relationships, or with compositions out of the bounds used to formulate the equations, are common problems to be solved by experimental trial and error. If the trial process was minimised, costdoi:10.2355/isijinternational.42.894 fatcat:t5y446ne2zgp5n5ov6renwstgm