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As we learn from Phaedo, Plato could not be present at the important philosophical conversation that took place on Socrates' last day, because he was ill, just as the unnamed fourth guest missed Timaeus' great speech because he was unwell. Starting from these two cases, and then by bringing in Plato's remarks on illness in the Republic, the paper argues that for Plato illness is bad because it reduces the person's agency in such a way that she cannot perform her key functions and tasks, anddoi:10.1163/9789004437081_013 fatcat:ae34igymt5hbpmgmzzlvwspdqa