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At a recent meeting, I came to realize that there are quite a few people who have more recently come into the field of data informatics, and have missed out on much of the discussions over the last decade on data identifiers. In the last few weeks two papers were published by some of the same co-authors that took a contrary position on the presentation of identifiers, although that was not a focus on either of the papers. I will give an overview of some of the issues regarding identifiers fordoi:10.5281/zenodo.2654643 fatcat:dlcvx76pnbcsfh54wiupm5rt4y