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<p>Bernie Mayer, Ph.D., author of four books related to conflict engagement joined Bryan Hanson, Michael Miller, and William Leggio to discuss the relationship between a leader's ability to transform complex environments and the leader's capacity to engage constructively with conflict. Throughout the interview, Dr. Mayer shared concepts from his two most recent books, Staying with Conflict and The Conflict Paradox. Among the many important takeaways for current and aspiring leaders, Dr. Mayerdoi:10.17062/cjil.v2i1.49 fatcat:6qzedtgdhjdprma4k736pytkzu