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Self experimentation is a rich medical tradition, leading to remarkable scientific advances but also erroneous conclusions and, sometimes, death. Recently we explored the properties of Urtica ferox, a stinging nettle endemic to New Zealand (fig 1) . During a collection expedition a 71 year old emeritus neurologist indulged in inadvertent, and subsequently deliberate, self experimentation. His notes of the evolving neurological manifestations after exposure provide clues to the toxin's mechanismdoi:10.1136/bmj.k5006 fatcat:4oaijx2mlvbs7mwyoj3s4nezqm